We stopped paying attention to the blog for a few months and look at what we missed…

Another comment posted by the ubiquitous “Anonymous” on 6/12/11, and he should know being a Re-Bath “insider”…or is it “EX-insider?...?:

“FYI. None of these people have worked for Rebath for sometime.”


We have no proof of that claim being correct, as the author prefers to hide behind his nom-de-plume, as generic and unimaginative as it is, therefore its value is debatable, but it is not a surprise from the way they (yes, Re-Bath) conducted business, hence the reason for this blog.
(Interestingly the Re-Bath of California webite links now say “ACCOUNT SUSPENDED”. Seems like a fitting balance in the grand scheme of the world…)

Again, since that claim is OBVIOUSLY being made by someone associated with Re-Bath, either currently or in the past, how accurate can it really be?
*See our earlier points as to the inherent dishonesty we were treated to by Re-Bath agents and representatives...

We, as stated earlier, were made aware that one raging jerk of a franchise operator had lost his franchise due to threats he made after ripping us off. After reading so much online about how Re-Bath operates, it is a wonder how they are even still in business as a whole. Also, as we earlier mentioned, it appears he is still trying to rip people off doing the same crap under yet another business name. That info came from online sources linked to the Re-Bath of CA on Willow.

In regard to that last sentence there is this…


Also posted by someone hiding behind the moniker “Anonymous” (could it be the same person?) on 4/1/11:


“We are the only Luxury Bath dealer in the south land. If you have a problem with our company please call or email us. We would like to address your concerns. Otherwise, Luxury Bath is a trademark and we need to defend it. The Rebath company you are refering in your post is no longer in business and was never a part of the Luxury Bath franchise.”

If the proprietor of the above referenced Luxury Bath thinks we are putting out incorrect info it should be re-stated that the discussed info came from Re-Bath of CA’s online public listing. Same old Re-Bath phone number was even listed as was the email info!

Now who wants irony? The web address "www.LUXBATHCA.com" as provided by that rejected Re-Bath franchise operator when he claimed to now be a Luxury Bath franchise takes you to the EXACT same “ACCOUNT SUSPENDED” page as trying to access the Re-Bath of California web address. Hmmm, more than JUST a coincidence?

LET’S BE CLEAR!
We never claimed to have a problem with “Luxury Bath”. Only pointed out that the Re-Bath of CA had stated they changed their name (after being kicked out of the Re-Bath family…) to “Luxury Bath”. Don’t shoot the messenger…

It is also interesting how you can be the ONLY Luxury Bath in the southland if the Willow street address is/was also a Luxury Bath at the same time. Seems you have an issue to address of someone claiming something different than you are stating. (Sounds a little like Re-Bath in that respect…)
In reality, it is your problem (Mr. Luxury Bath) if a snake (or weasel) is misleading the public by claiming it to be his business. Maybe you should confront him? Not sure if that could be simply done by looking in the mirror or not.

It is also amazing how after all this time, Re-Bath agents, (OK maybe EX-agents is a better term…) are still posting comments in this blog...


Remember, everyone, do your home work BEFORE contracting with ANYONE to do any work. Look at how many bad reviews there are for Re-Bath across the country. There is a reason for it. And since the franchise that did so much damage to our home has been disallowed the use of the Re-Bath name, and then claimed to be doing the same basic stuff using “Luxury Bath” as their business name, is it not wise to do your homework here too?

If they are not the same outfit, one would think they would be pleased to prove they never had any association with Re-Bath, or Bath-Pro (Re-Bath of California was Bath-Pro before they were Re-Bath, see earlier posts in this blog for full details). But if it is the same people, shouldn’t that history be made public to you too? Don't you want to know who you are letting into your home?

Protect yourselves consumers. Ask those pertinent questions. Check the contractor’s license number, it is free online. Verify the company name and owner’s name. Do they all check out correctly? Are they up to date? (And don’t trust the BBB, if the business is a paying member, they get a much better rating they possibly really deserve.)

But Wait, There’s More! Very Bizarre Part 3

We are sure it was Mr. Summy who made a reference (a quote?) in a comment he sent us on 10-8-2008:

"The whiny whimper of a cheater who has been taught a lesson.."

Why do we think it was him?

Because, this post was never published publicly in our blog.
We moderated it and refused to publish it since there were some other disturbing comments along with it.
So it is not only unlikely, it is impossible to be a coincidence for him to have just pulled it from the air.

What does it mean? Has anyone heard of that phase before, (or since)?

What is more important is how it ties this individual to the comments and threats he was “stalking us” with and also posting in a clone blog meant to be mistaken for this (our)blog to embarrass us, or worse.

The strikingly similar quote in his bogus clone blog he posted on 4-7-2010, an entire year and a half later:

The whinney whimper of a cheaper being taught a lesson"

Note that his spelling and writing skills as a whole are weak and in the same vein as this minor deviation in the spelling of “cheaper”.

We assume he meant “cheater” like the first time he used it, but that is just a logical guess.

Sure is damning evidence it was done by the same person is it not?
Who else could have done it? No one!
The same person clearly authored both posts.

In the Profile section in the fake clone blog we contend he created to libel us, Randy Summy had created this fictional and twisted background; we assume he based the sick stuff on his own personal preferences, pure assumtion, we do not know him personally.
But the fact remains that this included our actual personal information (which we deleted here), something never made public and only he (and his accomplice(s)) knew.

Cleary, this evidence busts him as the one doing this dreadful stuff simply (we assume) as retaliation for us not allowing him to get away with ripping us off. Shows us how much of a vindictive son-of-a-bitch he truly is, you can make your own decision...


Here is the entire fabricated profile we contend Randy Summy posted using our name and location to try to defame and damage us. This was retrieved from the now defunct blog site he (and/or fatbutterfly2) created at(http://rebathsucks.blogspot.com/) on 5-7-10 :

"About Me
######### (Actual name deleted for privacy and safety.)
View my complete profile ######### (Actual name deleted for privacy and safety.)
Gender: Male
Location: ############### (Actual location deleted for privacy and safety.)
State:## (Actual location deleted for privacy and safety.)
Interests:
Special
Favorite Music:
The whinney whimper of a cheaper being taught a lesson
Favorite Book:s
Any book on bondage.
My Blogs Team Members:
Rebath Sucks
User Stats
On Blogger Since September 2008
Profile Views (approximate) 86"


Again, no one knew Helpful Hal’s real name except Mr. Summy and his partners in crime.
Therefore who could have done this except him or someone with his help, you know, like fatbutterfly2…?

There you have it. More reasons to not deal with the aforementioned company or its representatives.

Please, we implore you, take the extra time to learn about the potential contractors you consider hiring. A little research before can save you a major nightmare later. Also remember, good BBB rating means nothing! Dig deeper for your own benefit.

Very Bizarre Part 2

It appears we never finished answering the question (or exposing the truth) about those homosexually charged “fatbutterfly2” posts.

We commented about the first one posted and never followed up.
Why is it still important or even relavent?
Because this person went out of his way to maliciously cause us harm when he was not able to manipulate us and we think it is only fair to let the public know the whole truth of the matter, what they may expect should they choose to do business with him or one of his companies. We apologize for the delay.
(Had it not been for "Anonymous" posting that "homosexual bashing" comment, we probably have not have finished the response), but we digress...

The second malicious and phony "clone blog" post was posted at www.rebathsucks.blogspot.com on 4-6-10 and was a plagiarized copy of a blog entry we posted back on 7-22-08 but he filled it (poorly) with his disgusting libelous lies and twisted the content. We have no doubt this rewritten tripe was posted by Randy Summy and/or his companion fatbutterfly2:

"Tuesday, April 6, 2010

Meeting the weasel!!!!
On Friday 10-12-07, the manager showed up at 3:50 PM, first time I met the guy face to face, He was wearing shorts and a tee shirt. (All these guys are teases.) He spent an hour viewing the shower and surrounding areas. He immediately refused to take responsibility for my problems saying that he blamed us for our own actions. .He continued to blame us for ostensibly trusting the salesman and that there was nothing behind the condom left on
the counter. Sadly he even chastised us for believing and trusting what he himself said before we signed up with Re-Bath if I thought the salesman came with the package.. Hard to believe, to our faces he actually blamed us for not getting what I wanted from the salesman And he was holding the document he requested I write in his hand! And then he tentatively approved it. . No I am s not strong enough, he is a liar to the devil. He said they would give us the shampoo tray and grab bar we ordered and that Oscar said he’d install them. You know the only way to test these things is to try them and he refused to give me a shampoo. Great customer service!He said he’d call us Monday the 15th, at least I got him to give us his email address, (assuming it is correct). So we called he at 11:23 AM at the number he provided. Although he said he could be reached Saturdays, we got a message saying the office was closed. We left a message asking him to respond via phone or email, and repeated our phone number to make sure he couldn’t say he didn’t have it. I also called Heidi Seyler.
I spoke to Heidi and she is a bull dyke if ever I meet one. She has the nerve to state that she doesnt get involved with "gay stuff". The nerve of her to call me gay. The most I can be called is gay curious. I have yet to meet the weasel.
HelpfulHal ######### (Actual name deleted for privacy and safety.)
Posted by fatbutterfly2 at 3:08 PM 0 comments"

(We surmise Randy Summy also has a personal issue with Heidi Seyler at Re-Bath Corporate from that rant.)

No one knew Helpful Hal’s real names except Mr. Summy. This clearly shows us that Randy Summy is not only vindictive, but a (disturbed in our opinion) sick pervert and a liar too.


For proof/reference/comparison, you can view the original blog entry he lifted and disgustingly modified. Please note we had witnesses to the actual event of the only time he was at our home, in case you thought for a second there was one iota of reality in that sleaze-fest of his probable fantasy. Makes us really wonder if he was not writing of his own slutty homosexual desires. After all, it shares a twisted commonality with many of the comments he sent to us at other times. We think this shows he is a sick bastard. After all what do you think of a person who would make up that "story" and publicly attribute it to a past customer that they mistreated?

Here is the link to that original page from our (this blog) that we contend Randy Summy plagiarized and distorted for his homosexually laden May-6-2010 post:

http://rebathripoff.blogspot.com/2008/07/meeting-of-weasel.html

Maybe we should sue him for plagarism AND libel?!
A little levity and humor there folks!!!

But seriously, it is truly scary to us that someone would create such a perverted, disgusting and libelous diatribe and post it publicly and falsely attribute it to another person to cause embarrassment or worse to a customer he RIPPED OFF simply because we stood up to him!

Oh, and how did we find out about that phony clone blog you may ask?
VERY good question!

We were alerted by someone using the exact same "Anonymous style" as the OTHER posts we attribute to Mr. Summy.

Coincidence again? We think not!

Again, we implore you, The Public; please do your research carefully before hiring a contractor, even if they have T.V ads or a nice showroom. You do not want to deal with someone like this or have to worry about them retaliating against you later, or even possibly stalking you. (Yes, you read that right.)
And to think he was being protected by Re-Bath corporate while he was doing this repulsive smearing of us online. Really, please do yourself the favor of research!

Hmmm Something Seems Somewhat Familiar About This “Anonymous” Comment...

As you can see in the comments section of responses to our blog post titled Very Bizarre, “Anonymous” wrote:
"I would have to say your hate blog is homophobic, gay bashing and anti-female, Mr. Helpful Hal. Why do they allow you to post such thing?"


So... We’d like to respond to that “Anonymous”:

Hate blog? Since when is trying to protect the public by sharing a truthful story of a home repair nightmare a hateful action?
Anyone else find anything we wrote to be "homophobic", "gay bashing" or "anti-female"? Didn't think so!

We had to wonder how long it would take for a weasel to drag itself out of the gutter sludge and how ignorant they must be to come to that “conclusion” considering the facts that were posted in this blog.

We made no comments that could be construed as homophobic or anti-female by anyone who can read at or above a second grade level.
However, yes, we do hate what Re-Bath and Mr. Summy have done to us and our home, but that does not make this a “hate blog”.

Clearly the troll who wrote this referenced comment has either an inability to understand simple English, or just wants to be a jerk, (maybe they can’t help it? We have met such an individual...). In addition, what possible benefit to this discussion did they think could be made by posting such a red herring of a comment? Or is that the best they could do to tes the waters and see if we were still monitoring the comments to our blog? What a moron for insinuating we wrote such tripe. (That's not gay-bashing or anti-female, it's social commentary.)
Yes we monitor the blog, but until this didn't see too much that warranted us to add to it.

And to answer your lame question, "They” allow us to post these truths and opinions due to the First Amendment. Same reason as you are allowed to post the misleading comment you did. Try to enlighten yourself before exposing your lack of cerebral acuity next time.

By the way, (Mr and/or Ms "Anonymous") your comment reads as if it was written by fatbutterfly2 herself or someone else mentioned in this post… And in addition, it follows a pattern we have been tracking from earlier posts made to this blog. Hmmmmm.....interesting...
Please continue to post in the same fashion, or try to figure out what the pattern is so you can alter your style, either way, we have this tagged. Or go the hell away you LOSER!

It is very sad when a disreputable contractor who got busted for illegal practices harasses the customers he cheated for years afterward.
Just serves as a reminder to do your homework before contracting with any home improvement company or person, lest you get the same treatment we have been subjected to.
We found out too late the Re-Bath franchise we contracted with was operated by a dishonest and vindictive jerk. Apparently it is the way other Re-Bath franchises operate as well from what other people have posted within this very blog as well as all over the internet...


Research thoroughly before contracting with anyone, check for valid licenses and that all workers are legal to work. Please protect yourselves!

Very Bizarre...

This comment was posted to our blog on 9-6-10:

"I want to know who Fatbutterfly2 is. I saw that posting about you trying to pick up on and harass the salesman and wondered why it was posted by someone other than Helpfulhal."

It brings up something we wondered how much had been seen and originally decided to ignore publicly. But things have changed now that it has been brought up and since we found out who we believe the author is. Rather than responding to it in the underlying comments section, we thought combined with what we learned semi-recently, and the fact someone asked about it openly, warranted clearing our name on the front pages of the blog.


To be clear, it was NOT HelfulHal that posted those fatbutterfly2 blog posts.

That was a “clone” site that “Fatbutterfly2” created and posted to make it look like HelpfulHal was a disgusting homosexual hawking pervert. Not even the same web address as our blog by the way. Whoever did it created one page, then copied and (poorly) edited/corrupted a page from our blog, and inserted some nasty allegations. A very sick mindset to be sure by someone who knew way more details than we ever allowed to be shared in out blog. (Those sensitive items will not be shared by us even at this time.)

Information only known to Re-Bath employees. And we really doubt the corporate side would delve to these depths. Considering some of the other comments we received, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure this out. (And how do you know that HelpfulHal is or is not a rocket scientist...?)

Bizarre posts with intent to paint us in a negative light that immediately lead us to believe that the same manager/owner of Long Beach/Signal Hill Re-Bath was responsible. While it has subsequently been taken down, we did make a copy of it before it was removed. We are concerned this has come up as we thought it was gone, but feel it is our right to try to clear our "name".

But interestingly enough, as much as we had our opinion it was done by this pain in our ass, (since he posted a comment to our blog directing us to view it). Imagine how astounded we were to see what appeared to be the answer to who did this when we were in court (again) because of this ongoing nightmare, and saw him and his female companion. (Ironically we assumed he was gay from the first time we met him, but it is irrelevant, at least we thought it was at the time.)

We noticed on the left inside calf of Mr. Summy’s companion’s leg a tattoo of a rather chubby (fat) butterfly!
If it was not her, (and we are confident it was one or both of the two), who posted those disgusting perverted posts, why did she become so upset when this observation was made to the Judge connecting the screenname fatbutterfly2 to Mr. Summy by way of his plump female companion and her tat-2?

Circumstantial? OK, so provide us with another more logical explanation.
Occam’s Razor you know.
The simplest explanation is usually the correct one…

Just to show how low Mr. Summy stooped to harass us, not content with just unfoundedly suing us (and not losing), here is a sample of what were are sure he posted.

Note the author “fatbutterfly2”.
Also keep in mind that the original installation date for the failed Re-Bath shower was October 5, 2007.

And this crap is posted 2 ½ years later?

Talk about vindictive contractors…
Do your homework before hiring a contractor!

This is the first post made:

"Thursday, April 1, 2010”
Rebath promises but doesnt delivery
I am here to correct the record. One of Rebath salesmen gave us an estimate and when he left I found a condom on the counter of the bathroom. Everyone knows what that means even if nothing was said we had a connection. Now he will not return my calls and the installer is just a tease. He took off he shoes and later his shirt (a real Inca god) and then just left. Promises were made even if nothing was said.
Posted by fatbutterfly2 at 2:27 PM 0 comments

Just setting the record straight… fatbutterfly2 comes off as quite the pervert to us.

Take A Bow? No, Take The Bow Out

Here's one more "live action" shot of how poorly yet another wall was installed.
See how bowed in at the light switch it was?
See the flex?
See how it is not properly adhered to the wall?
Notice the depth difference between the two switches?

Randy from Re-Bath of Ca originally told us he would replace this incorrectly installed wall when he came out on 10-12-07 and inspected the work done. (See our post in this blog from Friday, July 25, 2008)
Not all of them, not two of them (see video of mixer valve wall…), just this one.
But instead he sued us, even after agreeing it was not acceptable workmanship to our faces.

He didn’t even serve us the court summons legally. He just mailed it via regular mail and we received it shortly before the court date. (It should be served via Certified Mail. Or by a party not involved in the action.)
Then, in court and under oath, he originally claimed the Sheriff had served us, but we had already checked with and had verification from the Sheriff department that he never hired the Sheriff department to serve us. Of course he had no proof from the Sheriff, (as we do from our countersuit) to back up that false claim.

Then he claimed his father, Lloyd Summy served us in our front yard. Lloyd Summy was the name on the contractor’s license Randy Summy used, and apparently was the previous Re-Bath franchise owner (if not the actual or co-owner) so he was not qualified to serve us. (See our post in this blog from Thursday, July 31, 2008 )

So which story was the truth Mr. Re-Bath? The correct answer is neither.

Oh yeah, did we mention we never saw, let alone spoke to Lloyd Summy, not for lack of trying. (Actually, yes we did mention that…) And, he was NEVER at or on our property, (at least when we were there, but that is another story) so that would constitute a lie would it not? (In court under oath, is that perjury?)

This shows the level this Re-Bath “owner” was willing to go to instead of just doing the ethical thing he said he would do. (He gave us his “word”.) That would have been to repair the mess his company made.

Is that the kind of service you would want from a contractor? Do your homework, do your own research, before hiring Re-Bath or any contractor.

A Movie and A Picture… A Disaster Double Feature… With a Trailer…

More from the file of what we brought as evidence to the court when we were unjustly sued for not paying due to Re-Bath of Ca not finishing the job.

Here's another live action shot, this time of another improperly attached wall, (like the one where the light switch is located).
Also note, the plumbing was not even anchored to anything inside the wall. When we pulled on the mixer valve, it came out of the escutcheon without turning on.
We don't think it was to code at all... And subsequently our thoughts on that were proven to be true.
And little did we know at the time this was shot, it was already leaking and in the not too distant future our downstairs ceiling would cave from the plumbing leak of this Re-Bath mixer valve installation.






One reason for this unacceptable flexing of the wall is this:

Foam was used to “shore up”, or construct the wall at the area Re-Bath removed the tiles and wall board from to install the shower mixer valve.
Just soft foam! Seems to us like a cheap way to go. We were later told that GreenBoard was the correct material to use.
Would you want this in your bathroom?
They also neglected to properly anchor the pipe in the wall to the framing.


It leaked enough for the water to soak into the wooden floor from the other side (inside) of the wall and rot it:

And caused our kitchen ceiling below to come down from being waterlogged…

Alignment was a problem too.

How about this for plumb alignment?
In just the width of the small window the levelness is of by over a full 1/4 inch in the span of about 2 feet.
Now the house already had a window, and it was/is level, so the part that is installed crooked is Re-Bath’s work.
Right side; note the measurement from the center of the grid line to the bottom of the window framing is less than 2 inches:

Left Side; note the measurement from the center of the grid line to the bottom of the window framing is just a tick short of 2 and ¼ inches:

Acceptable alignment "quality" to you for a nearly $6000.00 investment? Didn’t think so…

But off on just one horizontal plane? It also is not plumb (true flat) on the top plane. Note the triangle is square to the metal window frame. We understand draft for drainage but that is excessive, (although since the window assembly has weep holes was it really even necessary?).
Notice there is still the packing tape on the corner trim pieces so it is still very new/fresh, yet look at the caulking...
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A side note, this "window" wall panel detached itself from the wall not long after it was installed and bowed outwardly quite a bit below the window. It was not adhered correctly over the existing tile they attached it to apparently...

Point being Re-Bath did not install their own product in a commonly accepted aesthetically pleasing way, or in a properly functioning way. Why?

And as if this wasn’t enough, it wasn’t even centered (left to right) on the wall/window! But we, the customers, were the ones blamed for this by the Re-Bath franchise owner. We still do not understand that mentality or attitude.

Alignment issues…

Check out this horizontal alignment. We were assured the grid lines molded into the wall panels would line up in corners by the salesman, just like our old tile, but the installers said they couldn't do it and the Re-Bath franchise owner said it was normal for them to not line up and furthermore claimed we agreed to this mis-match. (!?)
Absolutely not true, we did not agree to this bad alignment, and could not have, as we did not speak to him until after there were problems. Why would anyone want a lower quality in aesthetics "upgrade"?

Now for a fair photo comparison, below is what we were shown at the showroom as to what the corner alignment of the horizontal grid lines would look like.
To be clear, the sales literature brought by the salesman before we purchased showed photos of the same quality and clean alignment as we saw in the showroom.
We took these photos at our local Re-Bath showroom after the installation to show what Re-Bath shows the public and how it differed from what they installed and vehemently tried to make us accept:

Note how nice they were able to line those corner grid lines up? Not really indicative of what they installed in our home now is it?

Pictures, More Pictures...

Here are more photos showing the level of "quality" we received from Re-Bath's first attempt to do a shower installation.

This is a baseboard they cut to make the plastic wall panel fit, and the caulking they did...
Notice the nice horizontal chunk they took out of the wood? We did. This is what they considered as "finished". Would anyone reading this honestly consider this good work?

Here is an example of the caulk work they did at the tub/floor line. One of the corners where they hacked the floor up an the shower base was already shown earlier.

Also note that this was taken before we were able (allowed?) to use the shower, so the hair is not ours. Yes, a bit disgusting.



More of the trim, it was like this throughout the entire caulk job.

Here's another nice shot, note the use of silicone caulk that cannot be painted over on the ceiling.

And where they damaged the paint by their "workmanship". More unbelievable caulk work too. Yes, we were expected to pay a premium to Re-Bath for this level of work.

More chips and errant caulk...


Note that we were assured the walls and ceiling would not be damaged by the installation prior to contracting wit Re-Bath by the (unlicensed) salesman. And once it was damaged, we were told it was our responsibilty to fix it at our own expense.
Would you pay nearly $6000.00 for this level of "craftsmanship"? It certainly is not what we were sold...

It is nice to have learned how to post pictures, perfect timing.

Here is some more of the sloppy caulking we were assured was an acceptable standard by Re-Bath of CA. The worst part is it is a silicone based caulk that rendered that door jamb unpaintable even after removing the caulk. Note both colors are pooly done, but wait, why is there white on the jamb in the first place?

Nice gouge, more evidence of the "care" that went into the installation, and yes, were were accused by Randy of claiming they did it "that it was there before". Trust us, they did make the gouge...
Here's another classic shot. They tore up the floor (note the same style of caulking at the base too, about as close to continuity we got) and then Randy claimed it was that way when they got there.

Well, it was that way when he got there, because his crack team did the damage, but this was the first time Randy had been to our home, how on earth could he know? But he argued in court under oath it was that way before the installers started...
Notice that they didn't even install a Re-Bath pan after all the bragging and selling us on how high the Re-Bath quality was? We're not sure if this is Bait & Switch, but the Re-Bath pan we ended up with is not as much of a flexi-flyer as this one was. Who are we kidding, not sure if it was Bait & Switch? Look at the label.

Mildew and Mold. Yep, that’s what we call Re-Bath Quality!

We have both a fan and a window where the Re-Bath installation was done, and we use the approved and recommended by Re-Bath cleaners daily. We live in a non-humid area, and it is pretty much summer at this posting time of this.
Too bad we have a terrible mildew problem now in our Re-Bath Shower. We point this out after another pain in the backside cleaning of the fungus.

We were told we would never have to worry about mold and mildew in our Re-Bath shower, but we now know firsthand about the level of “integrity” and “honesty” of Re-Bath sales people and franchise operators.

We were told that the adhesive and caulking had compounds (fungicides) in them to eliminate the possibility of mold and mildew. We wonder why it began grow so soon after the installation? Actually we know why, cheap materials poorly installed by people who mislead us when they told us about what we were being sold…

Another word of warning to all potential Re-Bath (or whatever new franchise name your local post Re-Bath "scammer" is using) customers. You would be well advised to not trust them. If you have a mildew or mold problem now and want them to relieve you of that problem, they probably won’t be able to do it. Don’t believe their B.S. promises, do some homework. The system they sold us does not work in our home and they will not honor their “guarantee”. The only possible guarantee is that you too will likely be dissatisfied.

Back to scrubbing… Maybe we will start posting photos to show the crappy work and subsequent reality of one of the worst mistakes we ever made, contracting with our local Re-Bath.

Wow, it seems we struck a nerve again.

Someone claiming to be the daddy (Lloyd Summey) of the little weasel manager of the Long Beach Re-Bath, Randy Summey, is contacting us claiming he is a “board certified behavioral analyst”.

Unfortunately the idiot can’t even spell his made up profession correctly.
Whether it truly is who he claims he is doubtful since the message is full of the same babbling tripe as several earlier efforts they made. It’s probably the little weasel himself. Wonder if daddy knows his brat is dragging his name though the mud? From what we learned, the nut falls not far from the tree so it’s a moot point.

What a bunch of childish vindictive thieves. Not satisfied with ripping off customers, they take their cheating to a personal level of harassment.

Are these the kinds of people you would want to do any kind of business with?
Again we have to say it, Shame on Re-Bath and Shame on the Summeys.

And to think we haven't even been posting about the Long Beach franchise for a good 4 months... We thought it was finally over. Wonder what triggered this latest childish tirade?

This Is Quite A Laundry List, A Dirty Laundry List. Shame On Re-Bath For Being Such Liars.

1st she said that Mark spent 30 minutes discussing the position of the door, that is a HUGE LIE, he showed me by holding it up in the middle and said” this is where it will go” Nothing more!! I agreed to it. Then he put it in a different spot!

2nd Jennifer said I said ok to the spot because of the door frame…it costs $1.12 let’s be serious, all I wanted was the shower to be done correctly.

3rd Jennifer stated that I signed off, yes I did only after complaining about the door position to mark! It was 11pm and he said nothing could be done!

4th she said I called back 2 weeks later it was only 7 days and we buried my Dad in the middle of it.

5th she said I told someone I was delighted, I have never used that word to describe this mess. I said it was fine and wrote an email because Matt pushed for it to end the photo op!

6th she said I wanted it moved because I wanted to gain a half inch, what I said is it looks wrong and is the exact opposite of what we had and hated!

7th she said she met with the installers and managers to discuss this; she was on the phone with me the whole time in one call. She talked to only me.

8th she said I was given an opportunity to have doors installed this way when the job was originally done, and that I opted to follow our standard procedure of leaving the entry door frame intact and moving the door 1/2" on threshold That was never said to me never offered to me and I told them the moment I saw it off centered. It was 1/8 of an inch from the inside of the shower….see photos.

9th She said she explained that Re-Bath would move the door, against their better judgment, but that she would have to pay for that service and understand the charges would be needed to cover the added labor and the risks that would ensue. She said I agreed to a $175.00 fee for this service. This is not what was said to me by any stretch, she complained that the door might break and that was her only concern. She asked for the money and I explained it was not my fault that it was installed correctly. I talked while she yelled and finally she agreed to do it right!

10th Jennifer wrote When the installer arrived, Ms. Tuccelli stated she understood she would be charged, allowed him to perform the work, but then refused to pay when it was completed I was told it would be $175 at the start yes, but I did not say a word I walked away and let him fix it. I had not agreed to pay anything and had no intention to pay more to have it done right.

11th Jennifer said, Two weeks later the doors did in fact begin to leak, which was my exact concern from the start. It was 7 days again, and it was not her concern she was afraid of it breaking.

I am blown away at the lies this woman tells and how she is trying to make it look like it was something we did wrong and not her.

The BBB Is Not Your Ally, They Just Want The Money From The Businesses And Will Not Really Help Consumers

Friday November 6 2009 I received a letter from the BBB and Jennifer flat out lied thru the whole rebuttal that she posted to them.
(Wow, the exact same thing happened when we filed a complaint with the BBB. The Re-Bath franchise owner lied about everything, even made up a few juicy libelous bits…Hmm, maybe it was slanderous when the little weasel told it to the person at the BBB. Slander, libel, regular conversation for Re-Bath agents... -Hal)
I made a copy.

Honesty And Re-Bath-Opposite Ends Of The Spectrum…

October 28th 2009, at 11:35am, I opened my email and I received an email from Jennifer.
It is dated Monday at 3:29pm I am disappointed at the response. I saved it.
I sent a reply at 12:04pm with the shining examples of her honest business.

October 28th at 2:21pm, I received a call from Re-Bath headquarters from Amy.
She told me she received my email and was very sorry, she told me she would “feel the EXACT SAME WAY AS I DO”.

She said they are taking actions. (Yeah, but for or against the customer?-Hal)

I explained I felt the $175.00 that I was strong armed into paying was not right and she agreed. We talked about it and she said to call her if I needed to for anything and that she would handle this. She gave me her phone number 480-844-2596.

I told her I reported this to the BBB and she said she understood how I felt and agreed that I should NOT have paid more to have it corrected.

She gave me the address of customerservice@rebath.com to send the replies from Jennifer, I sent them all.

Yeah, ONE-DAY, STRESS FREE, My Behind!

On October 18th George was on line looking up info on Re-Bath he laughed when he saw the “one day Stress free” line on their site.
He also found a place to register our warrantee card so he filled it out today.

Can you imagine this has been 4 months since we started with re-Bath! (Sadly we don’t have to imagine, it was much longer in our case. It appears to be the norm for this company of lying cheats.-Hal)

To date I have spent a total of 36 days on the phone with Re-Bath, or having work done here by Re-Bath, or photos taken here by Re-Bath or waiting for Re-Bath to never show up here to take photos in a total of a 4 month time span… Just sickening!
(Not 2 days and not stress free by any stretch of the imagination) It cost us a total of $8,033.00

Back To That Pesky Problem of Re-Bath “Honoring” Their Own Warranty…

We talked about it and decided to pay her since they won’t fix the leak unless we do. (Is that extortion? Just asking...-Hal)

George called back, She said when I get the check we will come out.
He said if you have it by Tuesday or Wednesday, when will we see you?
She said by Thursday or Friday the 22nd or 23rd of October. He said fine we will send the check today.

She asked why we didn’t just move it or have it moved? (As if we don't know the answer...-Hal)
He said because we were told by your sales men Chris that if we touch anything on our own we void our warrantee, she said oh that would not have applied. (I think a lot of what our salesman told us was BS!)

(We think a lot of what Re-Bath told us was a bunch of BS too! And you can bet if you do touch anything, Re-Bath will play that voided warranty card, as if they would actually cover any of their own supposed warranty anyway.-Hal)

George said she yelled a lot and was a total Bitch to deal with but when he agreed to pay her she calmed down and talked about doing it.
So I just wrote check number 2912 to Re-bath for $175.00 and in the note area wrote paid under duress and I stuck a sticky note on it saying Promised Thursday or Friday October 22 or 23. I am so sick and tired of this freaking bathroom!!!!!!!and Re-Bath!!!!!!!!!
It has been two years since we started this bathroom remodel and we are in the same spot that we started in it does look nicer but is functioning the same, I want to move just to get away from the shower! I REALLY HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO!

Uh-Oh, This Is Not Good!

October 13th 9pm, my husband George just showed me the leak in the shower, it is dripping slowly onto the floor in the exact spot as the one we replaced, the same place that ruined the floor we put down that was replaced by Re-bath.

This is NOT good!
(Same thing happened to us, except there was never a leak until Re-Bath created them. Yes, them, plural.–Hal)

I told George I am done dealing with them and told him to call and handle it from here. I don’t ever want to have to deal with such unprofessional people again.
October 14th. George called Re-bath and spoke to a girl who had Dan, who was our plumber, call him back. Dan said he would call and set up a time with me that day. Dan never called.

October 16th Jennifer called and left a message at 1:47pm. Saying “I hear you’re having trouble with the door since we moved it, I want to talk to you about it, call me back.” George called back at 2pm.
He said to me after his call wow what a Bitch she is.
She insisted that she will not fix anything wrong with the shower till we pay the $175. From the shower door move. She said you can take us to court if you want. (Typical Re-Bath attitude, same as what we were met with.-Hal)
George said I have never heard that from a business before. He said she was stubborn and rude. (Again, so much just like our experiences with Re-Bath agents.-Hal)

He said to Jennifer let me ask you something, if you had a new roof put on your house and the gutters weren’t straight would you have them moved? She said “not if they told me not to.” George said so you would just live with it? She said yes. (We’re not buying it! You know damn well they would howl if they did not get what they wanted!-Hal) Your shower was done correctly as far as we are concerned. He said let me call you back.

Unbelievable! Late Again, And Still Charging For Their Mistakes

It is October 6th It is 8:55am and Kevin just arrived out front.
(Almost one full hour late, and this from a guy who “likes to show up early”. Give me a break!-Hal)
He is polite and introduced himself. I showed him the door and he said that usually they bring them out as far as possible. I explained how it looks really bad from the inside.
He said I see why he did it this way, I said me too but it is not where it belongs and not where he showed me it was going to go and not where the ones in the show room are. He said we can fit that. He said you realize that some screws will show.
(Pre-emptive CYA?-Hal)

I said not really, I measured them all and he checked what I was saying and saw I was right no holes will show. He is now prepping the area.
My Mother just asked Kevin to also check the seat that seems loose he said he would.

Kevin just let me know that the bill for today is $175. I can’t believe they want me to pay to make this right, after all that BS on the phone!! EVERYONE says it is wrong my friends, a carpenter and their show room person even said it!
AND I AM SUPPOSED TO PAY???? This is so wrong.
I never actually did agree to pay for this, we did not make a deal I just said to her Jennifer would you just send a guy out to fix this?
(Re-Bath “warranty” at their finest…-Hal)

9:56am I am listening to Kevin on his cell phone explaining how he is moving over a (my) shower door, he said I have it all cleaned and out I am just getting ready to move it now. He acknowledged what a person on the phone said and then he said, well I guess we learned from this that when we change from the original plan we need to let the customer know first. He listened more, then he stared to discuss something about signs being needed today in Avon.
I think he even feels this was wrong, why would he say that about letting the customer know first? Because he knows what I was told and what I ended up with were two different things!
(Sadly, even if the installer seems to side with or have sympathy for the customer, in the end we found out it is only one of two things. The installer is lying, or he will be forced by Re-Bath to what is best for Re-Bath, regardless of the contract or agreement.-Hal)

I am sick to my stomach thinking about how he wants money at the end of this and that I can’t in good conscious pay. I can’t pay for something that was not done right the first time, when I already paid $8,000.00. I cannot justify paying $175.00 more to fix what they did wrong or what at minimum a customer (me) is not happy with. I am sick trying to work out in my head what I am going to say to Kevin. He is a really nice man who is doing a great job…I am SICK! I should not be put into this situation.
(No one should be put into that situation. It is criminal. Unfortunately we too were made physically sick from stress from the way we were mistreated by Re-Bath, by the local jerks all the way up to the corporate slime.-Hal)