Since they say a picture is worth a thousand words…

We thought it was time to start sharing this irrefutable evidence of the “workmanship” Re-Bath did when they first tried to install our shower. Mind you, these are the exact same photos we showed in court and (deemed in the public domain as such), presented and accepted under oath as proof of the shoddy work done to our home by the Re-Bath franchise Mr. Summy “owns”. Please recall that he sued us (before finishing the job and without benefit of proper contractor licensing) and therefore saw these pictures then. Nothing was said at that time (under oath too) by him that these were not factual representations of the “quality” of work done by his franchise.

Are you following all that? These photos were shot the day following the installation (10-7-07). Please note that the "One Day, Stress Free, No Mess" installation started on 10-5-07 and was never truly finished by Re-Bath of CA. Anyone can do the math and see it was not done in one, let alone two days.

Let’s start with an example of the exquisite alignment skills of the installers. Notice the packing tape still hold this trim piece “straight”? Yes, the caulk is fully dry and that was deemed acceptable by them. Also note the slopped caulk at the top of the window frame. Except for the house's glass and metal frame window, this is 100% Re-Bath work.

How about we show some of their incredible caulk work? Unbelievable as it may seem, this is exactly the work that was done around the window (dried) and they claimed this was fully acceptable caulking. Can you believe it?

We have many more photos as we had to take a lot of them since we were sued by the owner of the Re-Bath because we had the audacity to ask that he make good on his word of finishing this job before paying the balance.

Remember their slogan about the customer doesn't pay until the job is done to their satisfaction. Hmm, just realized they might mean Re-Bath when they say "their". Not the customer. Plausible?

We needed to prove he had not even tried to finish before suing us. We would not have needed to document this had he not caused this situation…

And since we had to eat the cost of printing them for the court, it seems only fair we share them with the rest of the world.

And before you blast us for not just re-doing the crappy caulking, think about this, if you were being charged almost $6000.00 to do this job, wouldn’t you expect a lot better quality?

We just found these similar complaints by doing a Google search for “rebath”.

It was the second link from the top of the page that wasn’t a paid advertisement (by Re-Bath).
So it clearly is not just us that have had problems or see a pattern of the way this company works:

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/re-bath.html

Is it irony that doing a search for one company by their name brings forth a link to so many problems and complaints? No, it is not irony…

Now, if you do a Google search for “re bath complaints”, look at what comes up as the first link on page one:

http://rebath.pissedconsumer.com/

Of particular interest to us was this comment:

http://rebath.pissedconsumer.com/pacific-coast-rebath-bad-product-bad-warranty-20100428180076.html


While we do not know if it is the same franchise that we originally contracted with, the coincidences / similarities of the situations are astounding.

Whether it is or isn’t the same outfit, let’s pose this question, which is worse?
The same problems repeated by one franchise, or multiple franchises creating the same problems? See a pattern?

In fact, there are very many such websites, web pages and blogs dedicated to this one company and its franchises illuminating the problems many many consumers have had with them.

Maybe a full list, a catalog if you, will should be compiled to help protect consumers? Maybe someone will do that.

To the authors of those posts in the provided links: We sincerely hope it is OK that we posted those links in our blog. We will gladly remove them if asked by those who are responsible for originally posting them, but since it is offering protection in providing similar information to potential consumers, we thought it was the right thing to do. We only want what is best for the consumers. Just respond via the comments option. Thanks.

Don’t you just love the attitude and gall from Re-Bath representatives when the reality of their product and “service” is exposed?

This was posted as a response to this blog by who we are quite sure is the Re-Bath franchise “owner” that created the mess we have:

If you find a self cleaning bathtub or shower please let us know! Rebath should come by every now and again so they can clean the body oil and soap scum off you shower. Why dont you just get another fucking shower if you dont like this one you fucking cry baby!!!
June 19, 2010 7:27 AM

How much does that make anyone want to have this company do anything for them?
Is this just another example of those great people skills Mr. (supposed) Manager/Owner of Re-Bath in Long Beach?
No wonder the business name was changed. Oh wait, still doing Re-Bath but also Designer Bath now? What is the problem with that ever so wonderful product "Re-Bath", that another franchise name is warranted?
Call it what you want, but the principle character is still there and this response shows the unethical nature of Re-Bath representatives, as we are convinced who this is from.

And you can see the level of “courtesy” this childish and vindictive individual displays years after we have tried to move on. We are still being taunted and harassed.

No better words than those from the person we are sure is the culprit to illustrate the problems you too will have if you hire the Re-Bath we did, and possibly any other Re-Bath franchise. We can only speak from our experience. But this is too much.

(Funny how the salesman showed pictures of the great work they had done, but would not provide any actual references, now we know why. Stock photos we'll bet. Probably are the same in all the catalogs. No real satisfied customers maybe?)

Don’t you just love the “cry baby” term? This likely from a kid playing "owner" who threw a tantrum and sued us because "his franchise" at "his control" refused to finish the job or honor the contract and failed to be properly licensed? Shameful.

Mildew and Mold. Yep, that’s what we call Re-Bath Quality!

We have both a fan and a window where the Re-Bath installation was done, and we use the approved and recommended by Re-Bath cleaners daily. We live in a non-humid area, and it is pretty much summer at this posting time of this.
Too bad we have a terrible mildew problem now in our Re-Bath Shower. We point this out after another pain in the backside cleaning of the fungus.

We were told we would never have to worry about mold and mildew in our Re-Bath shower, but we now know firsthand about the level of “integrity” and “honesty” of Re-Bath sales people and franchise operators.

We were told that the adhesive and caulking had compounds (fungicides) in them to eliminate the possibility of mold and mildew. We wonder why it began grow so soon after the installation? Actually we know why, cheap materials poorly installed by people who mislead us when they told us about what we were being sold…

Another word of warning to all potential Re-Bath (or whatever new franchise name your local post Re-Bath "scammer" is using) customers. You would be well advised to not trust them. If you have a mildew or mold problem now and want them to relieve you of that problem, they probably won’t be able to do it. Don’t believe their B.S. promises, do some homework. The system they sold us does not work in our home and they will not honor their “guarantee”. The only possible guarantee is that you too will likely be dissatisfied.

Back to scrubbing… Maybe we will start posting photos to show the crappy work and subsequent reality of one of the worst mistakes we ever made, contracting with our local Re-Bath.

New Company Name, Same Bad Ethics. Beware of Designer Bath

Looks like Re-Bath in Signal Hill is now going by the name of “Designer Bath” now.
Same dishonest people hawking the same low quality over-priced products. And you can bet the service is just as bad, after all, if Re-Bath was so great, why change the name? And just look at who the owner is, Randy Summy. The same person who ripped off many in Southern California as Re-Bath based in Signal Hill/Long Beach.

Don’t automatically buy into the “Service Magic Seal of Approval” either. Even if it were a reputable service (it very well may be…), the owner of Designer Bath in Signal Hill has shown himself to us to be a dishonest and very vindictive person. That is what you must concern yourself with, his track record and deceitful business history. Check out the history, it speaks louder than us.

If you have a problem, and speak up, you can very much expect to be harassed by him for a very long time as we are being.

Also please note that earlier in this blog (9-8-2008) it was addressed that the same Re-Bath franchise used to go by a different name before adopting the Re-Bath name, and it had a history of consumer complaints with the BBB when we researched Randy and Lloyd Summy of Long Beach.
Don't take our word, look it up. This doesn't replace you looking it up, but it will provide some insight.

http://rebathripoff.blogspot.com/2008/07/news-flash-re-bath-of-ca-and-randy.html

http://rebathripoff.blogspot.com/2008/09/one-day-installation-no-way-try-eight.html

Are we prophets? No, but you can see now how the cycle is repeating.
An excerpt from the above link:

“Once they get shut down, as so many of them have been, (and possibly one more on the way… Re-Bath of Ca…), they just open up again under another name and continue to rip people off.

That is exactly what Re-Bath of California did. Before they were Re-Bath of Ca, they were another fly-by-night bathroom rip off company that screwed enough people to get shut down.

Look up Lloyd Summy, protégé son Randy Summy’s daddy and the name “Bath Pro, CL 597621”.

Then after that it appears they used the name “LSRC corp. CL 645660”. That last CL number is the one Randy Summy claimed was his when he contracted with us as Re-Bath of Ca. We don’t think he is old enough to have earned that license when it is listed as being established in 1992.
A family of shysters as far as we are concerned.
Protect yourself; do not do business with them. We’d recommend no one ever do business with any affiliate of Re-Bath. We sure wish we had done a better job of research before we got suckered in. We thought we did enough checking about the reputation of Re-Bath before contacting them. But we didn’t. And that is the purpose of this blog, to help other potential victims avoid the nightmare of dealing with these Re-Bath franchises.”

Again, don't take our word for it look it up!

Unbelieveable! We Are Still Being Harrased By The Jerk(s) From Re-Bath After All these Years!

This jerk who either is, or is pretending to be, Lloyd Summy that is posting comments to this blog is proving to be quite an entertaining yet obviously unstable, pathological liar, or worse, true psycho stalker type in our opinion.
He is apparently back to sending repeated comments under the name "Anonymous" after using "his name" of Lloyd Summy.

Why would the "father" of the cheating manager of a poorly run Re-Bath franchise expend so much effort to hound a past Ripped-Off customer? Are we the only ones being harrased by this guy?
It is beyond us.
Is it part of the Re-Bath "How to screw the customer handbook"? Assuming there is one, but the amount of the same stories on the web is enlightening...

Plus, we never dealt or even so much as spoke with this "Lloyd Summy". We did have to contend with his dishonest (possibly mentally or emotionally challenged) son Randy, and that was distasteful enough to say the least. Like walking through a turd farm and not being able to scrape the poop off later. (Seems like we missed a piece now...)

Interestingly, we had a sense of mental instablity with this guy when we first had the "pleasure" of meeting him.

See an earlier post:
Here is a link to a post we made way back on 6-6-08 recounting the activities of the day 10-4-07.

http://rebathripoff.blogspot.com/2008/06/first-day-and-incompetence-becomes.html

Here is an excerpt from that post showing our astute observation made on 10-4-07 becoming a real possible concern now:

“We began to think he has psychological defects as well as being an apparent liar.” Scary? It is to us.

Despite what some people think, we are entitled to our opinion, and that is one we shared at that time. Very scary.

But it does illustrate yet one more reason to steer clear of Re-Bath and the people that operate some of the franchises. We thought we were done with this nightmare, but this vindictive jerk is still hounding us HOW MANY YEARS LATER!? Good grief! What does that tell you?
We will not be posting all the tripe this jerk continues to vomit up at us, but we are saving it for our protection.

And since we know you are reading this "Lloyd Summy/Randy Summy" and "Anonymous". Back off and leave us alone. Go away!

Wow, it seems we struck a nerve again.

Someone claiming to be the daddy (Lloyd Summey) of the little weasel manager of the Long Beach Re-Bath, Randy Summey, is contacting us claiming he is a “board certified behavioral analyst”.

Unfortunately the idiot can’t even spell his made up profession correctly.
Whether it truly is who he claims he is doubtful since the message is full of the same babbling tripe as several earlier efforts they made. It’s probably the little weasel himself. Wonder if daddy knows his brat is dragging his name though the mud? From what we learned, the nut falls not far from the tree so it’s a moot point.

What a bunch of childish vindictive thieves. Not satisfied with ripping off customers, they take their cheating to a personal level of harassment.

Are these the kinds of people you would want to do any kind of business with?
Again we have to say it, Shame on Re-Bath and Shame on the Summeys.

And to think we haven't even been posting about the Long Beach franchise for a good 4 months... We thought it was finally over. Wonder what triggered this latest childish tirade?